Just popping in to say that initially I misread the 'Hardcopy' in the thread title as 'Hardcore' and was about to suggest some relevant sites.
Luckily, I realised my mistake in time. Apologies. Carry on. As you were.
Joe Grundy
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Hardcopy Help! Where can I find some?
by okage ini've got pdf's of certain watchtower publications, but i need the hardcopies to back up my argument.
it's annoying when you show a witness the jw.org website, download the pdf of the watchtower study issue in front of them, and they argue that you have no point because apostates tampered with the file.
mind you, it's on a wt/ccjw server, so i don't fathom how any apostate can tamper with it.
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Joe Grundy
No. I never was a dub, but I feel a need to challenge them as appropriate.
Sometimes when they call it's just not a good time. Sometimes, when they're obviously late-middle-aged sisters I just don't have the heart - their belief may be all they have to keep them going. Not my job to challenge their belief if they are happy with it.
For me, I tend to weigh uo the witnesses who call at my door. Some I just feel sorry for, smile, take the literature, and wish them well. Others, who are pushing their crap are fair game.
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After Armeggedon
by Joe Grundy iniirc, there were some pieces here (or links) to what life might actually be like after a catastrophic armageddon.
they read like the scripts of sci-fi post-apocalypse films.. .
bearing in mind that the whole basis of the jw religion is apocalyptic, do most/any dubs think of the practicalities beyond 'i'd like to live in that big house'?
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Joe Grundy
IIRC, there were some pieces here (or links) to what life might ACTUALLY be like after a catastrophic Armageddon. They read like the scripts of sci-fi post-apocalypse films.
Bearing in mind that the whole basis of the JW religion is apocalyptic, do most/any dubs think of the practicalities beyond 'I'd like to live in that big house'? What about the cholera/dysentery from all those corpses?
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The music that moves you....
by FlyingHighNow inonce when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.
he named each song after a person in our family.
this is the one he named heather.
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Joe Grundy
Takes me back to living in Cyprus a year and a bit ago. Yes we had the sea, sun and bars and cold beer but it wasn't really paradise ...
One of our pastimes was karaeoke in the bars (sing a few to get the tourists in and it was worth a free beer). 'R & J' was one of my specials, along with 'Always On MY Mind' (Willie Nelson) and 'House of the Rising Sun'. Oh, and 'Peaceful Easy Feeling' would always get the SEA ladies in the audience a bit emotional ...
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The music that moves you....
by FlyingHighNow inonce when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.
he named each song after a person in our family.
this is the one he named heather.
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Joe Grundy
Thanks Tal
That concert includes one of the best love songs ever - 'Romeo and Juliette'. And some good slide guitar and pedal steel.
Cheers!
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The music that moves you....
by FlyingHighNow inonce when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.
he named each song after a person in our family.
this is the one he named heather.
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Joe Grundy
If you REALLY want a good listen, try this (sorry I can't do a link) - full concert:
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What does your profile name say about you?
by usualusername ini use usualusername as i am not creative enough to think of anything sexier.... .
what significance is there behind your profile name?.
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Joe Grundy
Mine is the name of a grumpy old bugger character in the (very) long-running UK BBC radio soap 'The Archers' ('an everyday story of country folk').
I'm not THAT old, nor that grumpy (usually).
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Sex, the Disabled and the Terminally Single
by bigmouth input aside your religious or moral standards if you can for a moment and give me your viewpoint on this......... generally, the 'beautiful people' pair off with other 'beautiful people' in a sexual union for however long, and the average lookers meet other average lookers and so on down the line until you come to.......................those who don't appeal to the opposite sex due to appearance, injury, illness or mental capacity.. can, or should, these people be given access to those in the sex trade for 'relief' without cause for fear or stigmatising ?
or is it a case of "that's too bad" (meaning you're committing fornication and that cannot be sanctioned in any way)?.
have you ever needed to counsel a person (or their parents) on this ?
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Joe Grundy
There is a great deal of rubbish talked about prostitution - money for sex - and many misconceptions.
Prostitution is entirely legal in the UK. What is not legal includes soliciting for prostitution, two or more prostitues operating in the same premises (a brothel) or someone other than the prostitute living off the prostitute's earnings.
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand (the country with a sex trade probably only second to the Philippines per capita). In Thailand prostitution is an ancient and not entirely dishonourable profession with an estimated 90% catering for indigenous Thai customers. In the Philippines a greater proportion of the trade is reckoned to be focussed on foreigners (US occupation/bases playing a large part in this).
It is extremely difficult to legislate against the exchange of money (or more properly, money's worth) for sex. The ramifications of this are almost endless.
Some people have no wish to enter into a relationship. They require satisfaction of a basic human need, and are prepared to pay for it. There are many other considerations and discussions to be had, such as the role of purely sexual versus more 'meaningful' relationships, but if one consenting adult is prepared to provide a legal service which the other consenting adult is prepared to pay for, what business is that of anyone else?
Thought for the day: Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a prostitute? A: There are some things a prostitute won't do for money.
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Grace:
You have a PM.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Protection ? Not. Check this Out !
by flipper inthese quotes and excerpts i'm going to post here come from the " jehovah's witnesses - office of public information " from their website as it was posted on 12/2/07.
my wife and i have a lurking witness friend who sent us this information as she is very pro-active trying to fight child abuse from within the organization itself !
so get your barf bags ready- you are going to need them to stomach this " official policy " garbage from the wt society.
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Joe Grundy
I'm sorry, I haven't read all this thread yet. The first paragraph of the 'Official Dub Instruction' in the opening post was enough to make me respond.
It says, if I understand it correctly, that on receipt of an allegation of child abuse, Dubs interview the alleged offender and the victim, and if the alleged offender denies it, put them face-to-face.
NO, NO, NO, NO.
There is a well-defined and universally-recognised way of dealing with child abuse allegations throughout the western world - whichever agency receives the report (e.g. school, doctor, social services, police, etc.) and the Dubs don't figure in it. Unless of course a Dub is the person who receives the initial report, in which case their only role is to immediately pass it on to a proper authority then stand aside.
Before I retired I did, sadly, have to deal with many cases of child abuse. Had I ever come across a case where a Dub had acted as in this directive then he would have had a 100% chance of being arrested and a good chance of being charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice or a like offence.